New record conundrum
Hey everyone,
I have recently come across two books that are causing me problems. They
are the same book, Love’s Journey Home by Julie Coulter Bellon, with the
same copyright, ISBN, and publishers, with no edition statements. However,
the difference in page numbers is 234 vs 209. This is more than OCLC’s
recommended 3 page difference, but I am struggling with defending creating
a whole new record for only that difference. Does anyone have any advice or
directions on how I should proceed?
OCLC you later,
India
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I would go ahead and utilize the record. Page number differences is not enough reason to create a new record in my opinion.
From: India-Bleu Niehoff iniehoff@utah.gov
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2025 12:26:09 PM
To: technicalservices@lists.library.utah.gov
Subject: [Technicalservices] New record conundrum
Hey everyone,
I have recently come across two books that are causing me problems. They are the same book, Love’s Journey Home by Julie Coulter Bellon, with the same copyright, ISBN, and publishers, with no edition statements. However, the difference in page numbers is 234 vs 209. This is more than OCLC’s recommended 3 page difference, but I am struggling with defending creating a whole new record for only that difference. Does anyone have any advice or directions on how I should proceed?
OCLC you later,
India
OCLC When to Input a New Recordhttps://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/about/input.html
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Hi India-Bleu,
Do you have the books in-hand, and if so, have you examined the content and is it substantially different? I would be inclined to create a new record with such a large discrepancy; however, I’m coming from a special collections standpoint. I would spot-check and compare the contents before making a decision. Otherwise, I would add a 500 note indicating the variation or a local note for your copies.
Good luck!
Ashley Shaw
Special Collections Cataloging Specialist
J. Willard Marriott Library
University of Utah
ashley.shaw@utah.edumailto:ashley.shaw@utah.edu
From: India-Bleu Niehoff iniehoff@utah.gov
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2025 12:26 PM
To: technicalservices@lists.library.utah.gov
Subject: [Technicalservices] New record conundrum
Hey everyone,
I have recently come across two books that are causing me problems. They are the same book, Love’s Journey Home by Julie Coulter Bellon, with the same copyright, ISBN, and publishers, with no edition statements. However, the difference in page numbers is 234 vs 209. This is more than OCLC’s recommended 3 page difference, but I am struggling with defending creating a whole new record for only that difference. Does anyone have any advice or directions on how I should proceed?
OCLC you later,
India
OCLC When to Input a New Recordhttps://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/about/input.html
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Hi Linda and Ashley,
Thank you for your input! We have paged through the two copies of the book,
and other than things appearing on different pages they appeared to be the
exact same. We have a feeling it is due to the margins, as they are
noticeably different from one copy to another.
Ashley, I love your idea of a 500 note. Given that it appears to be the
same exact content, I feel like that would help assuage my cataloger heart.
Warmly,
India
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 1:43 PM ASHLEY ELIZABETH SHAW ashley.shaw@utah.edu
wrote:
Hi India-Bleu,
Do you have the books in-hand, and if so, have you examined the content
and is it substantially different? I would be inclined to create a new
record with such a large discrepancy; however, I’m coming from a special
collections standpoint. I would spot-check and compare the contents before
making a decision. Otherwise, I would add a 500 note indicating the
variation or a local note for your copies.
Good luck!
Ashley Shaw
Special Collections Cataloging Specialist
J. Willard Marriott Library
University of Utah
From: India-Bleu Niehoff iniehoff@utah.gov
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2025 12:26 PM
To: technicalservices@lists.library.utah.gov
Subject: [Technicalservices] New record conundrum
Hey everyone,
I have recently come across two books that are causing me problems. They
are the same book, Love’s Journey Home by Julie Coulter Bellon, with the
same copyright, ISBN, and publishers, with no edition statements. However,
the difference in page numbers is 234 vs 209. This is more than OCLC’s
recommended 3 page difference, but I am struggling with defending creating
a whole new record for only that difference. Does anyone have any advice or
directions on how I should proceed?
OCLC you later,
India
OCLC When to Input a New Record
https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/about/input.html
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*India-Bleu Niehoff *(she/hers)
Cataloging Librarian
State Library Division https://library.utah.gov/ | 801.715.6722
250 North 1950 West, Ste. A
Salt Lake City, Utah 84116-7901
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